Episode 4: Joel Courtney on Joy & Heroes
How the actor who plays John O’Leary found hope, gratitude, and joy—on and off set.
Hi there,
This week, John talks with Joel Courtney—the actor portraying John in Soul on Fire (you’ve seen him in Super 8 and The Kissing Booth). From small-town Idaho to 13 callbacks with J.J. Abrams, Joel opens up about craft, courage, and the joy that anchored his performance.
You’ll hear why he said yes to playing a real, scarred, redeemed life; how scenes with “Nurse Roy” and a graveside visit with Jack Buck changed him; and why gratitude for our heroes is the doorway to hope.
What You’ll Hear in Episode 4
Owning your story—without pretending the scars aren’t there
Why joy needs gratitude (and how to practice both)
Saying yes to roles that lift faith, family, and purpose
A reminder to thank the people who carried you
You didn’t climb alone. Name your heroes—and live with your soul on fire.